Qadiani threats
Anti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam
12th June 2000
Challenge of Mubahila by a Qadiani
‘Some Hell things will happen within 8 days’
from 12 th June 2000
by
Shahid Ahtesham Mirza Qadiani
Qadianis are really getting desparate now. When they run out of arguements, they either run away or start abusing or start threatening. Following is the latest example, which is produced here on explicit instructions of this Qadiani from USA.
PS: Qadiani letters in blue and my responses in red.
Subject: message of turth
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 20:55:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Smirza111@aol.com
dear,
your story is a story of
revenge and nothing else .try to understand
the time when your father was on the death bed and jammat was expeling you
from the house.it is the time when revenge started.let me tell you my story
,my father accepted ahmadiat but always had problem with the jammat .after
his death many time i got serious problems from the people of the jammat
,what you think how i should behave ,like you ,a reallty a stupid thinking
whome you have accepted jammat are hazrat mirza sahib.
new few question ,about mirza sahib.
(before read these questions keep in mind that this is my point of view not
the jammat.i am living in usa .a society where everybody is free to say what
he has in mind .)
do you aware about the objections of the christines on mohamad(sw).why hazoor
married whith a girl of 12 years when he was 50 ys old.
what was the reason that hazoor married with his cousin which was married
before his adopted son.
who defending against these alligations ,mirza sahib.
who maintain the respect of the prophets mirza sahib,before him all muslim
believed that Dawoos was involve with his commanders wife,Loot offered his
daughters to his tibe when the asked for two pious person,do you have
satisfactory answers .certainly not,who gave the answers mirza sahib.
if mirza sahib is liar .then hazrat mohamed(sw) was false.because mirza sahib
is defending him.oly liars defends the liars.you know the hadees that “liars
are ummat wahida”.it mean that all storis of prophet hood are self created
my those liars who used the names of prophets(noez billa).
sir,
if you have a problem with the people ,solve
with them .do not try to
dragg hazrat mirza sahib.
about mubahilla,
i am not a religious person but one thing i found after a long research that
mirza sahib is not a liar .he is the person whome the people are waiting for
a long time.if you want to do mubahils i am ready .please do not disturb
those people who live in UK.
please think as a optimistic.
i am also do not agree with many jammat’s people ,but my riligion lies in my
heart and mind .allaha says in Quran”do not think people’s torture as my
torture”.
you can not satisfy the people even angels comes to prove you .if you are
not willing to accept the truth ,nobody can turns you towards rightousness
,even you would see the allaha saying that he is right.i think you know the
story of Mooses in the court of Feroon.
please do not spoil your life with these moulvis.
please please think a little before you die.i am not saying to go London
and cry forgivness.just read any book of Hazrat Mirza sahib and tell me is
it awriting of a liar?.forget it .
sincerely,
shahid ahtisham mirza
new york
Subject:
(no subject)
Date:
Sat, 17 Jun
2000 20:58:58 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
rasheed,
your desparation is
on full swing in the section of indonesia.do not
die with this frustration ,come back…shahid ahtisham
Subject:
(no subject)
Date:
Sat, 17 Jun
2000 21:16:37 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
rasheed,
i have read almost all the
articles on your web pages what you think
people are stupid .listen thaat person is big stupid who think that people
are stupid.
1.you said about a Pakistani who is working against ahmais in Germany .what
they are doing a noble they attacked on my ahamdis .is this ateaching of
muhmad(sw),prophet was REHMET for kuffir.tell me whome you are following
.MUHMAD(SW) or KAFFIRS.let me tell you who you are “you are kaffirs and
liars”.a am ready for the Mubahilla.do you have acourage to face
me…shahid ahtisham
Subject:
(no subject)
Date:
Sat, 17 Jun
2000 21:29:24 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
raheed,
what are teaching of holly prophet
.to insult the the heads of other
people who are not think as you think( see the cartoon two in one) .shame on
you ,first when i read the story i thought that might you are a victim of
revenge .now i got you a brother of ablees and abu jehal.
“merd -e- nadan per kalamee nerm-e- nazuk bay asar”
i do not want to say this bad pray but you will
go to hell with all of your companions inshallaha.
i will see you in the court of Allah VERY SOON ,remembr me my name is SHAHID
AHTISHAM MIRZA.
Subject:
FINAL NOTICE
TO RASEED
Date:
Sat, 17 Jun
2000 21:55:53 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
RASHEED,
I AM GOING TO ALLAHA TONIGHT .THEREFORE
,I AM GIVING YOU NOTICE THE
SAME YOU SENT TO HAZOOR .IN EIGHT DAYS SOME HELL THINGS WILL HAPPEN WITH
YOU,IF YOU DO NOT REPENT .I AM GOING TO ALLAHA TONIGHT JUST FOR YOU
SATIN,.RASHEED YOU ARE IN A TRAP .NOBODY CAN HELP YOU EXCEPT ALLAHA .REPENT
AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.
SHAHID AHTISHAM MIRZA NEW YORK
Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun 2000 06:51:08 +0500
From:
Rashid rasyed@emirates.net.ae
To:
References:
1
Mr Shahid
Thankyou for your messages.
I hope that you would publicise this Mubahila far and wide, so that in either
case, people would judge the fate of the liar. Also I advice you to put these
messages in my guestbook for everyone to see. And I hope that now you do not try
to run away or disappear.
Wassalam to those who follow the hidayah
Rashid
Smirza111@aol.com wrote:
RASHEED,
I AM GOING TO ALLAHA TONIGHT
.THEREFORE ,I AM GIVING YOU NOTICE THE
SAME YOU SENT TO HAZOOR .IN EIGHT DAYS SOME HELL THINGS WILL HAPPEN WITH
YOU,IF YOU DO NOT REPENT .I AM GOING TO ALLAHA TONIGHT JUST FOR YOU
SATIN,.RASHEED YOU ARE IN A TRAP .NOBODY CAN HELP YOU EXCEPT ALLAHA .REPENT
AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.
SHAHID AHTISHAM MIRZA NEW YORK
—
[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran 13.28)]
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Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:12:24 +0500
From:
Rashid rasyed@emirates.net.ae
To:
References:
1
Mr Shahid
PLease also clarify one thing. If nothing happens to me within 8 days as you
have predicted, would you admit that Mirza Ghulam A Qadiani was a liar and you
will denounce Ahmadiyyat/Mirza Ghulam and embrace Islam?
Wassalam to those who follow the hidayah
Rashid
Smirza111@aol.com wrote:
RASHEED,
I AM GOING TO ALLAHA TONIGHT
.THEREFORE ,I AM GIVING YOU NOTICE THE
SAME YOU SENT TO HAZOOR .IN EIGHT DAYS SOME HELL THINGS WILL HAPPEN WITH
YOU,IF YOU DO NOT REPENT .I AM GOING TO ALLAHA TONIGHT JUST FOR YOU
SATIN,.RASHEED YOU ARE IN A TRAP .NOBODY CAN HELP YOU EXCEPT ALLAHA .REPENT
AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.
SHAHID AHTISHAM MIRZA NEW YORK
—
[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran 13.28)]
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Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE
TO RASEED
Date:
Sat, 17 Jun
2000 22:59:17 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
do not worry i am not running ,rashhed,you will see something very
soon,inshallaha,,,shahid ahtisham mirza
Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE
TO RASEED
Date:
Sat, 17 Jun
2000 23:00:31 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
and please publicise this and also tell your family and friends,,,,,,
Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE
TO RASEED
Date:
Sat, 17 Jun
2000 23:11:04 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
mr. rasheed,
it is not a matter of publicise now,it is a life and death game
.i am not a religious person but my allaha is coming to give my reply.wait
for him,,,,,
Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:04:44 +0500
From:
Rashid rasyed@emirates.net.ae
To:
References:
1
Mr Shahid
You are the one who has given the challenge, therefore you should be the one to
publicise it. Let everyone know your real face.
Smirza111@aol.com wrote:
and please publicise this and also tell your family and friends,,,,,,
—
[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran 13.28)]
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Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:14:30 +0500
From:
Rashid rasyed@emirates.net.ae
To:
References:
1
Mr Shahid
I am waiting inshaAllah for your god to come and punish me. But if this does not
happen, would you admit that Mirza Ghulam was a liar and would you denounce him
and embrace Islam?
Wassalam to those who follow the hidayah
Rashid
Smirza111@aol.com wrote:
mr. rasheed,
it is not a matter of publicise now,it is a life and death game
.i am not a religious person but my allaha is coming to give my reply.wait
for him,,,,,
—
[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran 13.28)]
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Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE
TO RASEED
Date:
Sat, 17 Jun
2000 23:21:50 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
rasheed,
if i admite that Mirza sahib
is liar then same time i will believe
that all prophets are liar,there will we no more prophethood in the
universe,because Mirza sahib endorsed those people who came before
him.Inshallaha ,my Allaha will be with me in this fight as he was with me all
the time before.Allaha will never leave me …
Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:33:41 +0500
From:
Rashid rasyed@emirates.net.ae
To:
References:
1
Mr Shahid
Do not try to run away. If you believe in what have said below and in your Mirza
Ghulam Qadiani’s truth so much, then you should not hesitate to say that if I do
not get the hell, as you said earlier, then it will prove that Mirza Ghulam A
Qadiani was a liar and you should denounce him and revert to Islam. If I get the
punishment then of course I am the liar and you were telling the truth.
Do not run away Shahid.
Wassalam to those follow the hidayah
Rashid
Smirza111@aol.com wrote:
rasheed,
if i admite that
Mirza sahib is liar then same time i will believe
that all prophets are liar,there will we no more prophethood in the
universe,because Mirza sahib endorsed those people who came before
him.Inshallaha ,my Allaha will be with me in this fight as he was with me all
the time before.Allaha will never leave me …
—
[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran 13.28)]
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Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE
TO RASEED
Date:
Sat, 17 Jun
2000 23:40:48 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
rasheed,
i am not running away.you do not
have time .and also me i am going
infront of allaha do whatever you want.you know why i believe on islam due to
miza sahib ,because ,if anybody read the hadeez or the translation of quran
it is full of different point of views ,the only realistic translation was
written by Mirza sahib . if i denounce Mirza sahib it means i am denouncing
islam.rasheed ,ready for the punishment ,it is on the way…inshallaha…
Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun 2000 08:51:24 +0500
From:
Rashid rasyed@emirates.net.ae
To:
References:
1
Shahid,
Are you afraid that Mirza Ghulam will be proved to be a lair?
Either i am a lair or Mirza Ghulam (and you) are a lair.
If iam a lair your threat of punishment in 8 days will come to be true.
If Mirza Ghualm Qadiani is a liar and whatever you have written are lais then
InshaAllah nothing will happen to me.
i think you are afraid and you know in your heart that Mirza Ghulam is a lair
that is why you are avoiding to say, if nothing happens to me in 8 days what will
you do then?
Will you accept that Mirza Ghulam was a lair? Will you accept that whatever you
had written was wrong? will you denounce Qadianism and Mirza Ghulam? Will you
come back to fold of Islam?
Do not try to run away from these questions.
Wasssalam to those who follow the Hidayah
Rashid .
Smirza111@aol.com wrote:
rasheed,
i am not running away.you
do not have time .and also me i am going
infront of allaha do whatever you want.you know why i believe on islam due to
miza sahib ,because ,if anybody read the hadeez or the translation of quran
it is full of different point of views ,the only realistic translation was
written by Mirza sahib . if i denounce Mirza sahib it means i am denouncing
islam.rasheed ,ready for the punishment ,it is on the way…inshallaha…
—
[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran 13.28)]
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Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE
TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun
2000 01:00:43 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
rasheed,
first of all,certainly you are
a liar it is understood ,i read you
page what yu have there cartoons ,shame on you, is it the way the holy
prophet preached the others? .this is the way of kaffirs.
2 if nothing happened to you in 8 days i will assume that there is no true
religion on the earth.in both case you will get punishment .therefore,ready
for it.
may be in next few days your whole life will be in hell inshalla.you will
know what i mean very soon .
Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:33:50 +0500
From:
Rashid rasyed@emirates.net.ae
To:
References:
1
Shahid
Stop running away.
If drawing cartoon is a matter of shame, then SHAME on Mirza ghulam. He was the one
who made cartoons of his opponents in his book Haqeeqatul Wahi, Roohani Khazain vol.22.
So much for your false prophet.
SubHanAllah!!!!
What Qadiani logic!! Either Mirza is truthful but if he is proved a LIAR, you will consider all
other Prophets false/all other religions false.
IN other words you have closed all doors for yourself to come to the right path. This is a true
example of being blind and deaf, hearts/ears/eyes being sealed by Allah.
Wassalam to those who seek and follow the hidayah
Rashid
Smirza111@aol.com wrote:
rasheed,
first of all,certainly
you are a liar it is understood ,i read you
page what yu have there cartoons ,shame on you, is it the way the holy
prophet preached the others? .this is the way of kaffirs.
2 if nothing happened to you in 8 days i will assume that there is no true
religion on the earth.in both case you will get punishment .therefore,ready
for it.
may be in next few days your whole life will be in hell inshalla.you will
know what i mean very soon .
—
[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran 13.28)]
rasyed@emirates.net.ae | rasyed54@hotmail.com | rasyed@yahoo.com
Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE
TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun
2000 01:07:12 -0400 (EDT)
From:
Smirza111@aol.com
To:
rasyed@emirates.net.ae
rasheed,
ahmadiat is a true
religion ,i believe that Mirza sahib is a
promised messiah and imamm mehadi .you people are the denouncers of of man of
allaha(who is mirza sahib).do whatever you can do.call the all satins you can
because i am calling my Allaha .try to face me if you can ,see your around
what is going on and in your family …i am coming with you punishment
with the army of Allaha.now you can not run .your time is over .it is end of
the thread which was loosen by Allah…
Subject:
Re: FINAL NOTICE TO RASEED
Date:
Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:28:36 +0500
From:
Rashid rasyed@emirates.net.ae
To:
References:
1
Shahid
Stop beating around the bush.
I think now you are scared that Mirza Ghulam would be proved a BIG LIAR, InshaAllah.
Life and death is not in your hands, it is in the hands of Allah, He is the best protector,
but you have shown your true mentality - the Qadiani mentality. You are a true follower of
Mirza Ghulam.
Wassalam to those who follow the hidayah
Rashid
Smirza111@aol.com wrote:
rasheed,
ahmadiat is
a true religion ,i believe that Mirza sahib is a
promised messiah and imamm mehadi .you people are the denouncers of of man of
allaha(who is mirza sahib).do whatever you can do.call the all satins you can
because i am calling my Allaha .try to face me if you can ,see your around
what is going on and in your family …i am coming with you punishment
with the army of Allaha.now you can not run .your time is over .it is end of
the thread which was loosen by Allah…
—
[Verily in the Remembrance of Allah do hearts find Peace.(alQuran 13.28)]
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